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]]> By: Thoughts on DataPortability | FactoryCity http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/gillmor-gang-050908/comment-page-1/#comment-1741 Thoughts on DataPortability | FactoryCity Mon, 04 May 2009 20:35:35 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=144#comment-1741 [...] It’s nuance, but it’s critical to conceptualizing the value and import of this shift, and it’s nuance which I think is often left out of the explanation of “DataPortability” (whose official definition is the option to share or move your personal data between trusted applications and vendors (emphasis added)). In my mind, when the arena of application is the open, always-on, hyper-connected web, constructing best practices using an offline model of data is fraught with fundamental problems and distractions and is ultimately destined to fail, since the phrase is immediately obsolete, unable to capture in its essence contemporary developments in the cloud concept of computing (which consists of follow-your-nose URIs and URLs rather than discreet harddrives), and in the move towards push-based subscription models that are real-time and addressable. [...] [...] It’s nuance, but it’s critical to conceptualizing the value and import of this shift, and it’s nuance which I think is often left out of the explanation of “DataPortability” (whose official definition is the option to share or move your personal data between trusted applications and vendors (emphasis added)). In my mind, when the arena of application is the open, always-on, hyper-connected web, constructing best practices using an offline model of data is fraught with fundamental problems and distractions and is ultimately destined to fail, since the phrase is immediately obsolete, unable to capture in its essence contemporary developments in the cloud concept of computing (which consists of follow-your-nose URIs and URLs rather than discreet harddrives), and in the move towards push-based subscription models that are real-time and addressable. [...]

]]> By: I don’t pay attention to that anymore… « Derivadow.com http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/gillmor-gang-050908/comment-page-1/#comment-534 I don’t pay attention to that anymore… « Derivadow.com Sun, 18 May 2008 21:38:11 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=144#comment-534 [...] My problem with APML is that it’s based on a view of file transfer and data sharing - one where you copy and move a file from one system to the next. I just don’t believe that that is how the Internet works. As Chris Messina puts it (in relation to dataportability.org): In my mind, when the arena of application is the open, always-on, hyper-connected web, constructing best practices using an offline model of data is fraught with fundamental problems and distractions and is ultimately destined to fail, since the phrase is immediately obsolete, unable to capture in its essence contemporary developments in the cloud concept of computing (which consists of follow-your-nose URIs and URLs rather than discreet harddrives), and in the move towards push-based subscription models that are real-time and addressable. [...] [...] My problem with APML is that it’s based on a view of file transfer and data sharing – one where you copy and move a file from one system to the next. I just don’t believe that that is how the Internet works. As Chris Messina puts it (in relation to dataportability.org): In my mind, when the arena of application is the open, always-on, hyper-connected web, constructing best practices using an offline model of data is fraught with fundamental problems and distractions and is ultimately destined to fail, since the phrase is immediately obsolete, unable to capture in its essence contemporary developments in the cloud concept of computing (which consists of follow-your-nose URIs and URLs rather than discreet harddrives), and in the move towards push-based subscription models that are real-time and addressable. [...]

]]> By: Hamish MacEwan http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/gillmor-gang-050908/comment-page-1/#comment-402 Hamish MacEwan Wed, 14 May 2008 06:58:23 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=144#comment-402 Gillmor: There’s no decentralized solution because it’s not going to have a control point, b[y] definition. Guess I'm as puzzled as Doc as to why twitter needs a control point. This from the man who said we each control our data. Lee: Right now, with Twitter, I follow you that Twitter controls the point of — it takes your updates and broadcasts simply. If I lose you, then I don’t receive your updates anymore. But if we try to decentralize this, and I just kind of subscribe to you, how do I tell you that I want to receive your updates? How do I tell you that I want you to broadcast to me? This is no problem. Replace "updates" with "email" and the answer is obvious. Further P2P file exchange seems to happen in quite a decentralised way, to the fury of incumbent distributors. How hard would it be to have a P2P client (locally or in the cloud) that use a bittorrent type of protocol to distribute, tweets, files, status, presence, favourites, etc. etc. We certainly don't need MS's "mesh." It seems too star for my taste. Gillmor: There’s no decentralized solution because it’s not going to have a control point, b[y] definition.

Guess I’m as puzzled as Doc as to why twitter needs a control point. This from the man who said we each control our data.

Lee: Right now, with Twitter, I follow you that Twitter controls the point of — it takes your updates and broadcasts simply. If I lose you, then I don’t receive your updates anymore. But if we try to decentralize this, and I just kind of subscribe to you, how do I tell you that I want to receive your updates? How do I tell you that I want you to broadcast to me?

This is no problem. Replace “updates” with “email” and the answer is obvious. Further P2P file exchange seems to happen in quite a decentralised way, to the fury of incumbent distributors. How hard would it be to have a P2P client (locally or in the cloud) that use a bittorrent type of protocol to distribute, tweets, files, status, presence, favourites, etc. etc.

We certainly don’t need MS’s “mesh.” It seems too star for my taste.

]]> By: Weblog on steroids: Twitter als Vorbild : Georg Holzer http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/05/09/gillmor-gang-050908/comment-page-1/#comment-366 Weblog on steroids: Twitter als Vorbild : Georg Holzer Mon, 12 May 2008 10:24:13 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=144#comment-366 [...] Microblogging-Plattform mit ähnlichem Featureset wie Twitter. Mehr dazu gibt’s auch am Podcast der Gillmor Gang (absolut [...] [...] Microblogging-Plattform mit ähnlichem Featureset wie Twitter. Mehr dazu gibt’s auch am Podcast der Gillmor Gang (absolut [...]

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