Comments on: Gillmor Gang 06.09.08 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/ Industry experts and thought leaders mix it up in The Gillmor Gang's daily conversation on what's hot in technology and social media. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:37:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Teague http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-2000 Teague Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:02:30 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-2000 I would like to see more blog entries like this one I would like to see more blog entries like this one

]]> By: Kalbach http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-1954 Kalbach Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:59:13 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-1954 I like your blog I like your blog

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]]> By: Sabbagh http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-1798 Sabbagh Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:32:29 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-1798 Thanks, this gave me some ideas for my own dandruff treatment Thanks, this gave me some ideas for my own dandruff treatment

]]> By: Schermerhorn http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-1749 Schermerhorn Sat, 09 May 2009 05:09:58 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-1749 I could of sworn I read about this before. I forgot what website I've seen this on but nevertheless nice post. I could of sworn I read about this before. I forgot what website I’ve seen this on but nevertheless nice post.

]]> By: Pokemon Harry Potter Naked Pokemon Misty http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Pokemon Harry Potter Naked Pokemon Misty Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:38:11 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-972 <strong>Pokemon Harry Potter Naked Pokemon Misty...</strong> I didn't agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me... Pokemon Harry Potter Naked Pokemon Misty…

I didn’t agree with you first, but last paragraph makes sense for me…

]]> By: scott http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-860 scott Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:16:15 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-860 The Android platform and SDK is far superior than anything out there. The lame excuses made by that Apple demo tool regarding background processes being evil were ridiculous. Push notifications are nowhere close to providing equivalent utility. Apple is just trying to fool us with some slight of hand to cover up the problems with their application model. Doc is right. Partitioned monolithic apps that cannot inter operate will be perceived as antiquated in the mobile space once we get our hands on component oriented solutions that end users can customize themselves as easy as fitting together lego blocks. Apple cannot get there from here fast enough to retain that facade of superior innovation and ease of use. The Apple App Store monopoly, the restrictions on what apps will be allowed in, and its 30% tax on users will send developers running to Android-based solutions. Steve Jobs' arrogance will be the undoing of the iPhone. The carriers are just biding their time until they tell Steve to fuck off. Android is free. The carriers don't do software. They will make more money leveraging Android than by having to put up with all the restrictions that come with partnering with Apple. The studios and other content providers might be losing their traditional distribution channels but the carriers don't have this problem. Their ability to monetize their users by adding additional charges against monthly phone bills is an advantage that trumps any scheme that Apple can try. The Android platform and SDK is far superior than anything out there. The lame excuses made by that Apple demo tool regarding background processes being evil were ridiculous. Push notifications are nowhere close to providing equivalent utility. Apple is just trying to fool us with some slight of hand to cover up the problems with their application model.

Doc is right. Partitioned monolithic apps that cannot inter operate will be perceived as antiquated in the mobile space once we get our hands on component oriented solutions that end users can customize themselves as easy as fitting together lego blocks. Apple cannot get there from here fast enough to retain that facade of superior innovation and ease of use.

The Apple App Store monopoly, the restrictions on what apps will be allowed in, and its 30% tax on users will send developers running to Android-based solutions. Steve Jobs’ arrogance will be the undoing of the iPhone. The carriers are just biding their time until they tell Steve to fuck off.

Android is free. The carriers don’t do software. They will make more money leveraging Android than by having to put up with all the restrictions that come with partnering with Apple. The studios and other content providers might be losing their traditional distribution channels but the carriers don’t have this problem. Their ability to monetize their users by adding additional charges against monthly phone bills is an advantage that trumps any scheme that Apple can try.

]]> By: I Am A Member Of The Cult Of iPhone | NewsMeToday http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-820 I Am A Member Of The Cult Of iPhone | NewsMeToday Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:49 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-820 [...] had a grand debate today on the Gillmor Gang about the iPhone and its place in history. The most interesting part of the discussion for me was [...] [...] had a grand debate today on the Gillmor Gang about the iPhone and its place in history. The most interesting part of the discussion for me was [...]

]]> By: Flooper http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/2008/06/09/gillmor-gang-060908/comment-page-1/#comment-806 Flooper Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:15:17 +0000 http://gillmorgang.techcrunch.com/?p=177#comment-806 I've been watching ATSC DTV for several years now, and see no problem with free, advertiser-supported push streaming wireless digital entertainment, nor does it seem old-fashioned to me. Yes, most broadcasters are now operating on UHF, and will be moving to VHF next February, and coverage patterns will change. But I'll tell you, right now, I get far better DTV reception than we get NTSC reception. The problems I have with my (2G) iPhone are A. like everyone else, lack of search in Contacts (why can't we assign arbitrary keywords to contacts, BTW?) B. no easy way to turn off data roaming. Foreign carriers will absolutely murder you, C. no internet radio in iTunes. I want to use the iPhone to get Indy Pop Rocks in my car, D. Flash, obviously, but having twisted YouTube's arm, that's unlikely except on Adobe's initiative, D. Preview, so I can read PDF e-books on it, E. too few alternatives to Apple's headset (stereo, special plug, microphone), especially BT, and more trivially, F. Why do podcasts not get updated as listened to on the Mac side?, G. too many steps to dismiss a bad WiFi connection, H. the spelling suggestions are just awful. With a huge percentage of my contacts in LA, why does it not assume when I type "Los" that the next word will be "Angeles" and not "Any", and that's after typing ANG just now, with a couple of thousand contact records. I. it needs private browsing. I've picked up other guy's iPhones and started to type into Safari, and seen suggestions given that their wives should not. They probably don't realize how close they are to disaster :-) I’ve been watching ATSC DTV for several years now, and see no problem with free, advertiser-supported push streaming wireless digital entertainment, nor does it seem old-fashioned to me. Yes, most broadcasters are now operating on UHF, and will be moving to VHF next February, and coverage patterns will change. But I’ll tell you, right now, I get far better DTV reception than we get NTSC reception.

The problems I have with my (2G) iPhone are A. like everyone else, lack of search in Contacts (why can’t we assign arbitrary keywords to contacts, BTW?) B. no easy way to turn off data roaming. Foreign carriers will absolutely murder you, C. no internet radio in iTunes. I want to use the iPhone to get Indy Pop Rocks in my car, D. Flash, obviously, but having twisted YouTube’s arm, that’s unlikely except on Adobe’s initiative, D. Preview, so I can read PDF e-books on it, E. too few alternatives to Apple’s headset (stereo, special plug, microphone), especially BT, and more trivially, F. Why do podcasts not get updated as listened to on the Mac side?, G. too many steps to dismiss a bad WiFi connection, H. the spelling suggestions are just awful. With a huge percentage of my contacts in LA, why does it not assume when I type “Los” that the next word will be “Angeles” and not “Any”, and that’s after typing ANG just now, with a couple of thousand contact records. I. it needs private browsing. I’ve picked up other guy’s iPhones and started to type into Safari, and seen suggestions given that their wives should not. They probably don’t realize how close they are to disaster :-)

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